Mary FROWEN baptised 28/11/1762 (General)

by Philippa, Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 13:58 (2574 days ago)

Hi

I've been trying to find the children of Charles Frowen and Ann Smith who married in Newland on the 28/06/1759.

I believe they had two children, William (who is my direct line) and Mary. I think this might (?) be a record of a marriage for Mary, only because a witness is a William Frowen, but I'm not sure.

Does anyone else have William BUTLER married to a Mary Frowen in their tree who might be ablet to help?

OR, does anyone else know of other children of Charles Frowen and Ann Smith?

Thanks

Record_ID: 35897
Entry_Number: 275
Year: 1820
Month: Apr
Day: 12
Grooms_Surname: BUTLER
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Hundred of St Briavels
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: FROWEN
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Hundred of St Briavels
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Mark of William Frowen
Witness_2: Rich[ard] Morgan
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Pay[le]r Matt[he]w Procter Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/11
Page_Number: 92
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex_Groom: B346
Soundex_Bride: F650

c/o Charles FROWEN around 1760

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 21:32 (2574 days ago) @ Philippa

The children of Charles and Ann you asked about :-

Year 1760
Month Jul
Day 29
Parents Surname FROWEN
Child Forenames W[illia]m
Fathers Forenames Cha[rle]s
Mothers Forenames Ann
Mothers Surname
Residence Clearwell
Occupation
Officiating Minister
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P227 IN 4/1
Page Number 292
Parish Chapel Newland


Year 1762
Month Nov
Day 28
Parents Surname FROWEN
Child Forenames Mary
Fathers Forenames Char[le]s
Mothers Forenames Ann
Mothers Surname
Residence Coleford
Occupation
Officiating Minister
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P227 IN 4/1
Page Number 299
Parish Chapel Newland

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Mary FROWEN m William HUGHES 1799

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 21:35 (2574 days ago) @ Philippa

this would be a a "younger" Mary to consider - the William Butler marriage is much later....

Year: 1799
Month: Jun
Day: 30
Grooms_Surname: HUGHES
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Newland
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: FROWEN
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Newland
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Mark of Thomas Roberts
Witness_2: Thomas Bond
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: R Gibson vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/9
Page_Number: 4
Parish_Chapel: Newland

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Mary FROWEN m William HUGHES 1799

by Philippa, Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 23:22 (2574 days ago) @ slowhands

Thank you Slowhands

Looks like Charles and Ann did only have two living children then. I will now need to see if Charles had siblings or try and work out who his parents were so that I can tie in more Frowen folk.

Mary Frowen will probably have to be left for a while, as the registers don't show who her Father is I suspect that I will never know for sure if she became Mary Butler or Mary Hughes.

I wonder if Simone has tied them in?

Philippa

Mary FROWEN m William HUGHES 1799

by pclark @, Thursday, July 17, 2008, 06:50 (2574 days ago) @ Philippa

hi

I have a Frowen in my tree.

i think i contacted through genes a while back.

Research has brought some children to light, be happy to share


Pete

Mary FROWEN m William HUGHES 1799

by Simone @, Thursday, July 17, 2008, 22:57 (2573 days ago) @ Philippa

Hi Phillipa

Not managed to tie them in yet, but haven't dome much on Frowens lateley.

Have you had any contact with Graham Rice? I will have to look at my old laptop to see where we are up to. It died on me and some of the info I transferred to the new one doesn't seem to have gone over. Will get it out and see if I can find it all, before it dies completely! Will be back:)

Simone

Mary FROWEN m William HUGHES 1799

by Philippa, Friday, July 18, 2008, 05:48 (2573 days ago) @ Simone

Hi Pete and Simone

Haven't done a lot of family tree stuff of late, my Mother passed away in February (a Frowen) and I haven't really got back into it until very recently.

I can't remember if I have been in contact with Graham, I will have to look through (and organise) my emails and my Genes contacts to see if I have.

Pete, did you look at my Genes tree? Did you find any useful info there?

Phil

Mary FROWEN m William HUGHES 1799

by pclark @, Friday, July 18, 2008, 07:43 (2573 days ago) @ Philippa

Hi

I matched your Fredrick Frowen of 1885.

He married Alice Shillam and they had two children, Ernest and Annis.
They also had a half brother called Albert Shillam.

Pete

Mary FROWEN m William HUGHES 1799

by Simone @, Friday, July 18, 2008, 09:19 (2573 days ago) @ pclark

Hi Pete

Just to let you know I am descended from Frederick's uncle Henry b 1854, m Hannah Maria nee Wright, late Bending.

Simone x

Mary FROWEN m William HUGHES 1799

by Simone @, Friday, July 18, 2008, 09:16 (2573 days ago) @ Philippa

Hi Philippa

I am really really sorry to hear about your mum.
Glad to see you are now feeling able to get back to your research again. Lots of love to you and your family.


Graham has the parents of our William Frowen b c 1773 (m Elizabeth Aston) as John Frowen and Mary Jones. Siblings to William are Betty b c 1764, John b c 1766, Jane b c 1768 d 1788, and Maryb 1774. Graham is descended from John Frowen b 1797 illigitemate to Mary b 1774.

I've let the Frowen side slip at bit at the moment too as haven't been able to confirm anything this far back. It's all a bit too vague isn't it.

If you can't find any contact from Graham, let me know and I'll put you in touch if you want.

Simone x

Mary FROWEN m William HUGHES 1799

by Philippa, Saturday, July 19, 2008, 04:23 (2572 days ago) @ Simone

Thank you Simone, as always you are a star!

I have been trying to see how Annis Frowen connects into my tree, it's an unusaul name and I have seen it on another tree in Genes, now I have the link!

I don't think either of you have Kearsey's in your tree do you?

Phil

Mary FROWEN m William HUGHES 1799

by Simone @, Saturday, July 19, 2008, 11:44 (2571 days ago) @ Philippa

Sorry Philippa, no Kearsey's in my tree.

Who is Annis then?

Simone x

Mary FROWEN m William HUGHES 1799

by Philippa, Sunday, July 20, 2008, 03:47 (2571 days ago) @ Simone

Daughter of Fredrick - see Pete's posting.

Will try and call you soon to catch up.

Phil

Mary FROWEN m William HUGHES 1799

by winky @, Winelands, South Africa, Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 06:25 (2561 days ago) @ Philippa

hi phil, i have an augusta kearsey 1858 parkend who married albert aston son of james aston and elizabeth johnson (also the frowens!) is this who you are looking for?

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