Polish Translator Please (General)

by terry2424 @, LYDNEY FOREST OF DEAN, Wednesday, May 02, 2012, 21:34 (1159 days ago)

My Uncle, Verdun James was in a POW in Stalag 8b in Poland I have found some information about him on the web (i think) the only problem is its wrote in Polish I would be very greatful if some one could translate it for me
Terry

Polish Translator Please

by ritpetite @, New Zealand, Wednesday, May 02, 2012, 22:01 (1159 days ago) @ terry2424

I have friends who live in Cheltenham who are polish if you would like it translated.

xx Dont worry he's my cousin and not first cousin.

Polish Translator Please

by Roger Griffiths @, Thursday, May 03, 2012, 10:03 (1158 days ago) @ terry2424

There is a lot about this camp on the Net.

www.wienerlibrary.co.uk/collections/documents.

This is a detailed description of original documents in Wiener Library. Even the list, not the original docs. (in German) very informative. There are other websites re this camp using your search engine.

The area was mainly or wholly Saxony until 1945. Then the Polish borders were redrawn westwards.

Wehrkreis VIII was Military District VIII HQ Breslau. Stammlager VIII B was at Teschen now in Czech Republic.

Private Verdun JAMES 1918 - 1944 Bream R I P

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, May 03, 2012, 10:47 (1158 days ago) @ terry2424

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At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

Name: Verdun James
Mother's Maiden Surname: Meek
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1918
Registration district: Monmouth
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 29

Year: 1919
Month: Jan
Day: 7
Parents_Surname: JAMES
Child_Forenames: Verdun
Fathers_Forenames: Charles Frederick
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah Jane
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Bream's Eaves
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: G W Leonard Cass
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: Born 22 Nov 1918
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 82
Parish_Chapel: Bream

Name: Verdun James
Given Initials: V
Rank: Private
Death Date: 15 Jul 1944
Number: 5185838
Birth Place: Gloucestershire
Residence: Gloucestershire
Branch at Enlistment: Infantry
Theatre of War: France and Belgium Campaign, 1939/40
Regiment at Death: Gloucestershire Regiment
Branch at Death: Infantry


JAMES, VERDUN
Rank:Private
Service No:5185838
Date of Death:15/07/1944
Age:25
Regiment/Service:Gloucestershire Regiment
5th Bn.
Grave Reference2A. C. 1.
Cemetery KRAKOW RAKOWICKI CEMETERY
Additional Information:

One of my fellow volunteers has photographed the grave
http://www.twgpp.org/information.php?id=2686236


The cemetery address is:-

Cmentarz (Cemetery) Rakowicki
Ulica Jana Prandoty
31-519 Kraków
Poland

GPS Location is:-
N 50 04 43
E 19 57 19

Historical Information
At the end of the Second World War, the graves service of the British Army of the Rhine gathered together Commonwealth graves from all over Poland into three cemeteries, this being the largest.

Those buried here died while prisoners of war during the German occupation, most of the graves coming from the cemetery at the large camp at Lamsdorf, Stalag VIIIB (after 1943 known as Stalag 344), where there was a hospital of 450 beds used only for Commonwealth prisoners. Before this hospital came into being the sick at Lamsdorf were treated at the hospital at Langenbielau: those who died were buried in Langenbielau Catholic Cemetery, and these graves were also moved to the Commonwealth plot at Krakow. Other graves brought into the cemetery were those of airmen who lost their lives during the Warsaw supply drop and the bombing of factories, railways and other strategic objectives. Some of these airmen were originally buried in Warsaw.

There are now 483 Commonwealth casualties of the Second World War buried or commemorated in Krakow Rakowicki Cemetery. There are also 24 non war graves, those of civilian internees (including two Imperial War Graves Commission gardeners) and 15 Polish war graves.

http://www.lamsdorfremembered.co.uk/resources.htm


Terry
It might be worth contacting :=

Army Personnel Centre
HQ Secretariat
Historical Disclosures
Mail Point 400
Kentigern House
65 Brown Street
Glasgow G2 8EX
Scotland, UK
+44 141 224 2744

You will require to fill in a 'Request for Service Details' form and, for some enquiries, a request for a fee (currently £25) for the search will be made.

Last time I used the service there was a 6 month backlog , but it was worth the wait :-)


Out of interest was he called Verdun because a family member fought or fell in WW1 ?

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Private Verdun JAMES 1918 - 1944 Bream R I P

by Roger Griffiths @, Thursday, May 03, 2012, 16:03 (1158 days ago) @ slowhands

5th Battalion, Gloucestershire Regiment was in 144th infantry Brigade, 38th (South Midlands) Division. Served in Belgium and France until May 1940. Presumably he was captured there. The division thereafter did exist until 1945 in UK only.

Charles F JAMES 1886 - 1948 Bream

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, May 04, 2012, 08:32 (1158 days ago) @ slowhands

but i`m unaware of any family members who died in the 1st World War,but its worth a look

Year: 1886
Month: Jul
Day: 21
Parents_Surname: JAMES
Child_Forenames: Charles Frederick
Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Mothers_Forenames: Mary Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Woodside
Occupation: Miner
Officiating_Minister: H E Dandy
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Sponsers Demetrius Cheras Ellen Cheras Mary Ann Jones
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 89
Parish_Chapel: Bream

1891
Rd James abt 1825 Bream Eaves, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary A James abt 1846 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Albert Jamesabt 1875 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Laura James abt 1877 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Annie James abt 1878 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Henry James abt 1880 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Edwin James abt 1882 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Tom James abt 1884 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Charles James abt 1887 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1901
Mary Ann James abt 1847 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Monmouthshire
Edwin James abt 1883 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Monmouthshire
Tom James abt 1885 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Monmouthshire
Charles J James abt 1887 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Monmouthshire
Laura James abt 1877 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Monmouthshire
Albert Tower abt 1896 Castleford, Yorkshire, England Grandson West Dean, Monmouthshire
Mary A Tower abt 1900 Castleford, Yorkshire, England Granddaughter West Dean, Monmouthshire

Name: Charles Frederick James
Name: Sarah Jane Meek
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1909
Registration district: Monmouth
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 87

1912 JAMES Ronald William Joseph Charles Frederick Sarah Jane Bream Collier Bream
1914 JAMES Charles Denis Charles Frederick Sarah Jane Bream Woodside Collier Bream
1916 JAMES Doris Kathleen May Charles Frederick Sarah Jane Bream's Eaves Collier Bream
1919 JAMES Verdun Charles Frederick Sarah Jane Bream's Eaves Collier Bream
1921 JAMES Winnie Margaret Charles Frederick Sarah Jane Bream's Eaves Collier Bream


Name: Charles F James
Birth Date: abt 1886
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1948
Age at Death: 62
Registration district: Forest of Dean
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 7b
Page: 373

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Polish Translator Please

by terry2424 @, LYDNEY FOREST OF DEAN, Thursday, May 03, 2012, 19:02 (1158 days ago) @ terry2424

Thank you all so much for your input and suggestions. I will follow the leads you`ve given me
Slowhands i am not aware of any family member falling in the 1st world war why did you suggest that ?
Terry

Verdun

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, May 03, 2012, 20:21 (1158 days ago) @ terry2424

Thank you all so much for your input and suggestions. I will follow the leads you`ve given me
Slowhands i am not aware of any family member falling in the 1st world war why did you suggest that ?
Terry

Verdun was a very significant battle in WW1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Verdun

we have seen a few first names related to battles perhaps where family or villagers fell.
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=35713

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Verdun

by terry2424 @, LYDNEY FOREST OF DEAN, Thursday, May 03, 2012, 22:16 (1158 days ago) @ slowhands

Thanks again Slowhands for the info but i`m unaware of any family members who died in the 1st World War,but its worth a look
Terry

Polish Translator Please

by wamorgan ⌂ @, USA, Tuesday, May 08, 2012, 01:31 (1154 days ago) @ terry2424

Hi Terry,
You can also try google translator and have the entire page translated. It will be a bit rough, but give you an idea of the words.

http://translate.google.com

Hope that helps!

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